Comments on: Humans, Religion and Intolerance http://prasanthp.com/2010/07/humans-religion-and-intolerance/ Prasanth is a web developer and designer who spends most of his day figuring out how to make better websites. Sun, 29 Jan 2012 07:29:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Prasanth http://prasanthp.com/2010/07/humans-religion-and-intolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-1441 Prasanth Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:55:22 +0000 http://prasanthp.com/?p=196#comment-1441 I was using Namboothiri/Nambiar as an example. Let's leave Hinduism, let's look at Parsis. What reservation do they have? They are 1% of the muslim population in the country. And where Hindus are less, like Kashmir, give reservation. Double standards is not a sign of intelligence. And I really don't accept the idea that change is not possible. It should begin from your own self. And if at least the educated youth do it, that will make a hell of a difference. Please don't misinterpret what I said - all I said is when people make such movies, please accept the fact that it is your own religion that is doing it. And show it to the public that you are against them. As long as they don't come out in masses and protest what their own community does, it is difficult to believe that they really condemn it. I was using Namboothiri/Nambiar as an example. Let’s leave Hinduism, let’s look at Parsis. What reservation do they have? They are 1% of the muslim population in the country. And where Hindus are less, like Kashmir, give reservation. Double standards is not a sign of intelligence. And I really don’t accept the idea that change is not possible. It should begin from your own self. And if at least the educated youth do it, that will make a hell of a difference. Please don’t misinterpret what I said – all I said is when people make such movies, please accept the fact that it is your own religion that is doing it. And show it to the public that you are against them. As long as they don’t come out in masses and protest what their own community does, it is difficult to believe that they really condemn it.

]]> By: mahesh http://prasanthp.com/2010/07/humans-religion-and-intolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-1440 mahesh Wed, 04 Aug 2010 07:06:24 +0000 http://prasanthp.com/?p=196#comment-1440 Btw nambiar and nampoothiri r the sub castes within the same community. If we start giving reservations like that, there r hundreds of castes among hindus most of them will be minority, and also the castes will be different in different parts of the country. So we are still following the once established assertion of backwardness in reservation policies. Btw nambiar and nampoothiri r the sub castes within the same community. If we start giving reservations like that, there r hundreds of castes among hindus most of them will be minority, and also the castes will be different in different parts of the country. So we are still following the once established assertion of backwardness in reservation policies.

]]> By: mahesh http://prasanthp.com/2010/07/humans-religion-and-intolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-1439 mahesh Wed, 04 Aug 2010 06:45:47 +0000 http://prasanthp.com/?p=196#comment-1439 PFI is a terrorist organisation beyond doubt. What i said about ur comment was that you were over critical about muslims - "Lastly, regarding the movie name and stuff – why is it that certain people want to take only the “sympathy” that the terrorists are bringing and not condemn/issue “fatwa” against terrorists?". The movie is not to yield sympathy it's to condemn the fact that the majority is suffering for the deeds of some fanatics. No religion preaches crime and violence and i believe muslim community do condemn the terrorists. As i said fundamentamilists r there in every religion who are trying to upset the whole harmony. Now abt the caste system, the whole caste system is crap . It should have been based on some statistics then that the muslims were termed minority . What i said was if once believed to be backward communities who r richer than the so called forward majority, is still enjoying the reservation they've gotten, then you can't just take away the reservation of once minority muslims. The whole system has to be revamped which obviously won't happen. About love jihad, investigations have proved there is no such thing happening in kerala. It's not like "well let’s wait for all evidence then and then act, and let’s hope we will still have time to act". Investigations were there and it showed no such thing is happening. PFI is a terrorist organisation beyond doubt. What i said about ur comment was that you were over critical about muslims – “Lastly, regarding the movie name and stuff – why is it that certain people want to take only the “sympathy” that the terrorists are bringing and not condemn/issue “fatwa” against terrorists?”. The movie is not to yield sympathy it’s to condemn the fact that the majority is suffering for the deeds of some fanatics. No religion preaches crime and violence and i believe muslim community do condemn the terrorists. As i said fundamentamilists r there in every religion who are trying to upset the whole harmony.
Now abt the caste system, the whole caste system is crap . It should have been based on some statistics then that the muslims were termed minority . What i said was if once believed to be backward communities who r richer than the so called forward majority, is still enjoying the reservation they’ve gotten, then you can’t just take away the reservation of once minority muslims. The whole system has to be revamped which obviously won’t happen.
About love jihad, investigations have proved there is no such thing happening in kerala. It’s not like “well let’s wait for all evidence then and then act, and let’s hope we will still have time to act”. Investigations were there and it showed no such thing is happening.

]]> By: Prasanth http://prasanthp.com/2010/07/humans-religion-and-intolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-1438 Prasanth Wed, 04 Aug 2010 00:54:44 +0000 http://prasanthp.com/?p=196#comment-1438 Mahesh, like I said to Vishnu, please read the last paragraph again. Hope that will clear the doubts about me condemning a "whole religion". Friend, please read what has been written once more. I condemn all sorts of violence that any religion/group/organisation promotes. The recent comment that the CM made was against PFI, not against entire Muslims. Who is asking anyone to take it as a comment against all Muslims? And I humbly request you to stop believing what the 24/7 "modern" news channel throw to the people day in and day out. Secondly, regarding lack of evidence for love jihad - well let's wait for all evidence then and then act, and let's hope we will still have time to act. If the judiciary is of any value, let's listen to it - it was an order by the High Court of Kerala asking the police to look into the matter. The govt. clearly was happy appeasing minorities. Thirdly, from the comment I can gather that you have not bothered to look at the percentage wise split up of communities and castes. If we are to go by the actual numbers in the society, upper caste Hindus (Nambiar, Namboothiri etc.) are the minorities - not Ezhava nor Muslims. Lastly, regarding the movie name and stuff - why is it that certain people want to take only the "sympathy" that the terrorists are bringing and not condemn/issue "fatwa" against terrorists? Mahesh, like I said to Vishnu, please read the last paragraph again. Hope that will clear the doubts about me condemning a “whole religion”. Friend, please read what has been written once more. I condemn all sorts of violence that any religion/group/organisation promotes. The recent comment that the CM made was against PFI, not against entire Muslims. Who is asking anyone to take it as a comment against all Muslims? And I humbly request you to stop believing what the 24/7 “modern” news channel throw to the people day in and day out.

Secondly, regarding lack of evidence for love jihad – well let’s wait for all evidence then and then act, and let’s hope we will still have time to act. If the judiciary is of any value, let’s listen to it – it was an order by the High Court of Kerala asking the police to look into the matter. The govt. clearly was happy appeasing minorities.

Thirdly, from the comment I can gather that you have not bothered to look at the percentage wise split up of communities and castes. If we are to go by the actual numbers in the society, upper caste Hindus (Nambiar, Namboothiri etc.) are the minorities – not Ezhava nor Muslims.

Lastly, regarding the movie name and stuff – why is it that certain people want to take only the “sympathy” that the terrorists are bringing and not condemn/issue “fatwa” against terrorists?

]]> By: mahesh http://prasanthp.com/2010/07/humans-religion-and-intolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-1437 mahesh Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:15:17 +0000 http://prasanthp.com/?p=196#comment-1437 The deeds of a few cannot be generalised to criticize a religion as a whole. Fundamentalists are there in every religion. You are a being a bit harsh on muslims. About love jihad - no proof has been found to substantiate the comment. Among Hindus wat abt the clashes between different castes to reaffirm their backwardness??If the majority socially and economically forward OBCs can have reservation y not the minority muslims?? And abt ur comment on the film MY NAME IS KHAN - it's only a depiction of what the majority muslim community has to go through for the deeds of a few fanatics. And yeah i agree with vishnu banning any organisation is not feasible. They willrise in another name. What about Hindu organisations like Shiv sena and sreeram sena and the RSS??What exactly are they propagating??Isn't that hatred and violence?? The deeds of a few cannot be generalised to criticize a religion as a whole. Fundamentalists are there in every religion. You are a being a bit harsh on muslims. About love jihad – no proof has been found to substantiate the comment. Among Hindus wat abt the clashes between different castes to reaffirm their backwardness??If the majority socially and economically forward OBCs can have reservation y not the minority muslims?? And abt ur comment on the film MY NAME IS KHAN – it’s only a depiction of what the majority muslim community has to go through for the deeds of a few fanatics.
And yeah i agree with vishnu banning any organisation is not feasible. They willrise in another name. What about Hindu organisations like Shiv sena and sreeram sena and the RSS??What exactly are they propagating??Isn’t that hatred and violence??

]]> By: Sreejith http://prasanthp.com/2010/07/humans-religion-and-intolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-1436 Sreejith Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:53:49 +0000 http://prasanthp.com/?p=196#comment-1436 Hey . u all had made Sohrabuddin a Hero. Do wel,l but dont make a hue and cry when an another 26/11 happens. Hey . u all had made Sohrabuddin a Hero. Do wel,l but dont make a hue and cry when an another 26/11 happens.

]]> By: Prasanth http://prasanthp.com/2010/07/humans-religion-and-intolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-1435 Prasanth Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:17:31 +0000 http://prasanthp.com/?p=196#comment-1435 Good read. Thanks for the link :) Good read. Thanks for the link :)

]]> By: vishnu http://prasanthp.com/2010/07/humans-religion-and-intolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-1434 vishnu Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:38:19 +0000 http://prasanthp.com/?p=196#comment-1434 The same topic of your blog post, from a demographic angle. You may love reading this ;) I would like to stress the last paragrah of this article - "This article has NOTHING TO DO WITH any particular community's role to overturn India's religious demography in its favour. Even so, they bear watching." Published in the opinion page of today's Business line - 'Kerala's demographic trends bear watching ' http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/07/30/stories/2010073051511000.htm The same topic of your blog post, from a demographic angle. You may love reading this ;)

I would like to stress the last paragrah of this article – “This article has NOTHING TO DO WITH any particular community’s role to overturn India’s religious demography in its favour. Even so, they bear watching.”

Published in the opinion page of today’s Business line -
‘Kerala’s demographic trends bear watching ‘
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/07/30/stories/2010073051511000.htm

]]> By: Prasanth http://prasanthp.com/2010/07/humans-religion-and-intolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-1433 Prasanth Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:56:06 +0000 http://prasanthp.com/?p=196#comment-1433 Vishnu, please read the last paragraph. Anirudh, Sarcasm indeed. :) Modi is a good chief minister in my opinion. I am a highly opinionated person. So you can argue for the sake of arguing. You think Sohrabuddin was the only fake encounter case? What about the paid stone throwers in Kashmir and the infinite other cases that happen in North East. Just because it was against Modi government media spared not even a second to blow it up. Read wikipedia or any unbiased media about Godhra riots. Adding on, Kerala is not the place where most number of Muslims are above BPL. It is Gujarat, yes, the racist, communal Narendra Modi's Gujarat. ;) Vishnu, please read the last paragraph.
Anirudh, Sarcasm indeed. :) Modi is a good chief minister in my opinion. I am a highly opinionated person. So you can argue for the sake of arguing. You think Sohrabuddin was the only fake encounter case? What about the paid stone throwers in Kashmir and the infinite other cases that happen in North East. Just because it was against Modi government media spared not even a second to blow it up. Read wikipedia or any unbiased media about Godhra riots. Adding on, Kerala is not the place where most number of Muslims are above BPL. It is Gujarat, yes, the racist, communal Narendra Modi’s Gujarat. ;)

]]> By: anirudh http://prasanthp.com/2010/07/humans-religion-and-intolerance/comment-page-1/#comment-1432 anirudh Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:05:38 +0000 http://prasanthp.com/?p=196#comment-1432 i totally agree with vishnu.. u wer a bit too mellow on de hindutva goons.. de SOHRABBUDIN case and de gujarat riots r not happening anywer else.. but i guess kerala will b soon topping the list ...the islamic terror groups flourish over here in kerala cos i guess this is where they hav more territorial and financial(most number of muslims in any state who r abv de BPL)advantage! and by de way ur comment.."communal BJP or the intolerant RSS"..was that sarcasm or genuine realization..hehe. :P i totally agree with vishnu.. u wer a bit too mellow on de hindutva goons.. de SOHRABBUDIN case and de gujarat riots r not happening anywer else.. but i guess kerala will b soon topping the list …the islamic terror groups flourish over here in kerala cos i guess this is where they hav more territorial and financial(most number of muslims in any state who r abv de BPL)advantage!
and by de way ur comment..”communal BJP or the intolerant RSS”..was that sarcasm or genuine realization..hehe. :P

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